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As usual, an important and unusual topic, rationally and emotionally explored toward wisdom. Thank you.

I note the recent focus and recommendations on traditional religions with curiosity--you brothers had transformative event recently?

Additional quotes on suffering for you and your readers:

“If a way to the better there be, it lies in taking a full look at the worst” Thomas Hardy

“In the United States, it is now possible for a person 18 years of age, female as well as male, to graduate from high school, college, or university without ever having cared for, or even held, a baby; without ever having looked after someone who was old, ill, or lonely; or without ever having comforted or assisted another human being who really needed help. No society can long sustain itself unless its members have learned the sensitivities, motivations, and skills involved in assisting and caring for other human beings.” Yuri Bronfenrenner

“The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths. These persons have an appreciation, a sensitivity, and an understanding of life that fills them with compassion, gentleness, and a deep loving concern. Beautiful people do not just happen.” Elisabeth kubler-Ross

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